An MP3 of this conversation can be found at my Talks and Thoughts podcast available via your podcast feed.
A conversation on wrestling with Christianity – or perhaps more accurately, the Christianities that swirl around the figure of Jesus – at the Medicine Path podcast, #87, with Brian James.
For more on Brian – http://medicinepathpodcast.com, http://brianjames.ca
For more on Owen Barfield and his take on Christianity – https://www.markvernon.com/consciousness