Does David Hume just miss the point?
By Mark Vernon on Tuesday, March 24 2009, 09:23 - Religion - Permalink

Julian Baggini has been writing a series of pieces on the Guardian's Comment is free site concerning David Hume's writings on religion. They are clearly argued, as you'd expect, and contain a lot of good points well put, not least on the limits of reason.
However, so far, they've left me with the feeling that Hume's work, in the crucial moments - which is to say in the moments that he is often taken conclusively to refute religious belief - just seems to miss the point.
It starts with his decision to attack religion (we should say Christianity really) for its belief in miracles. Now, there are undoubtedly believers who believe in miracles as supernatural interventions from on high, and that belief is questionable for all sorts of reasons. However, if you read someone who's actually reasoned the question of miracles out, there is, I think, a ready answer to Hume - and actually one provided several centuries before he lived.
I'm thinking of Thomas Aquinas, though you could point to Augustine too. For Aquinas, there is nothing exceptional about miracles, should they be thought to have occurred, since the whole of existence is itself, already miraculous. God cannot therefore be said to intervene; when something seemingly miraculous happens, the correct response is not to focus on the apparent exceptionality of what's occurred, but is to be reminded of the extraordinary gift of life and the world that is all around us - what you might call the continuous miracle of existence.
So Hume's definition of a miracle as 'a transgression of a law of nature by a particular volition of the deity, or the interposition of some invisible agent' just misses the deeper point. Moreover, you might use Aquinas to challenge Hume's argument in another way.
Hume argues that a miracle, in his restricted 'interventionist' sense, would only be believable if 'the testimony (to the miracle) be of such a kind that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavours to establish.' Well, think about the existence of the world and life itself. Both could, at heart, be said to be utterly miraculous: for all that we understand about the world and life, that they are, and what they are in themselves, remains astonishing, improbable and apparently ineffable. So the existence of existence could be taken to be a case of evidence for the 'miraculous' fact of existence, the denial of which would be even more bizarre than accepting the evidence itself.
You can, of course, deny that God is the sustainer of all things, à la Aquinas, and arrive at a different notion of providence. Hume did, seeming to have opted for one rather like the ancient Stoics: human beings are just one part of a whole order. The existence of that whole order remains something of a mystery, though we do well to keep one eye fixed on that bigger picture in which we are but a small thing. So, Hume concludes, that his life is important to him, but not to the 'grand fabric'. 'It is a kind of blasphemy to imagine that any created being can disturb the order of the world, or invade the business of providence,' he wrote in an essay On Suicide. Modesty - intellectual and otherwise - is the appropriate response, and that argues against dogmatic religion and atheism alike.
The other important thing that occurs to me, and that seems often to be missed, concerns the priority of faith. Now, it's impossible to talk about faith as if it was one coherent thing, of course. But you might venture that metaphysical convictions come after the experience of faith as being a tremendous giver of life, life in all its fullness. In short - and if this is not always true, it is in many cases and I'd argue in the more sophisticated and so interesting cases - religious faith does not rest on metaphysical convictions. A believer believes because it is compelling to them in all sorts of ways, some cruder than others, and mostly they are only secondarily to do with strict metaphysics. Similarly, the stories that are told and retold in churches, and other places of worship, are primarily a reflection of faith, not reasoned argument, that faith being in turn mostly to do with hope, and that hope being mostly directed at the enrichment of human life.
This is why the existence of suffering is the greatest challenge to faith: it operates primarily at an emotional not rational level. Or to put it another way, most of the arguments one can read about belief and unbelief are essentially rationalizations of already held positions; individuals are rarely converted by argument, and when someone does convert, one way or another, it's my impression that the arguments are usually said to 'tip them over', rather than of themselves be conclusive.
Theologians, and their critics, get into the reasons 'afterwards', as it were, and also to help 'the faithful' with the important process of discernment: 'faith seeking understanding' in Anselm's famous formula. So there is an important, even vital, dialogue to be had between faith and reason. The arguments are worth having because of the way they shape faith, or the lack of it. But faith itself is prior to reason; it is the existence of faith that gets the debate about belief going in the first place.
Julian's most recent piece was on Hume's dissection of the notion of the immortality of the soul. Hume is apparently against it, for three reasons. First, the very notion of the soul is mysterious (regardless of whether or not such entities exist) and so you can't say much about its supposed immortality on the back of that. Second, he objects to the link in Christianity, at least, between immortality and divine judgement; it's humanly unappealing because it makes God out to be a tyrant. Third, as 'Nothing in this world is perpetual', there's no reason to think the soul would be perpetual either.
Well, the first argument mitigates against concluding anything much about the soul, regarding its immortality or anything else. The soul is, in effect, like consciousness: a 'hard' problem. The second is against a particular conception of divine retribution which whilst mainstream churches might have taught in previous times, they just don't anymore. The third argument just seems weak, given what is now known in science, namely that there are features of nature that exist perpetually. Energy would be an obvious example, it persists and just gets converted into different forms. (The law of the conservation of energy was only conclusively formulated in the 19th century so Hume can't be blamed for not knowing it.) More metaphysically, the laws of nature seem to be constant through space and time too, for all that some physicists are speculating today that might be otherwise. (Even then, you could say that laws themselves are perpetual features of the universe.)
One thing that is striking about reading Hume's philosophy is the way he tends to distance himself from the arguments he conveys. He writes dialogues or uses irony. He is perhaps suggesting that all reason is inevitably provisional. When he is read by those who are already convinced of the positions he purportedly wholeheartedly supports - namely those associated now with atheism - they therefore risk missing the point. Hume is certainly anti enthusiastic superstition, which he saw all around him. But if he's against such evangelical belief he'd also be against convinced atheism. His main goal, I'd say, is to demolish the possibility of rational certainty in matters to do with the nature and origin of things at all. That plays both ways.












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This is an incredibly bad argument against Hume on miracles. You can call the existence of life itself a miracle but that term loses its meaning without a contrast against events that aren't miraculous: and there can be no such contrast for the creation of the world itself. Moreover it plainly distorts the sense in which the term 'miracle' is applied in religious accounts, i.e. as a contrast to the normal pattern of the natural world. So your suggestion leaves the point Hume is making entirely untouched.
Incidentally, it is interesting you say that mainstream churches no longer teach divine retribution. Well perhaps in polite Church of England circles the images of hell and brimstone have gone away. But Hume's claim works against any doctrine that says we earn rewards and punishments in the after-life for how we live on earth, and that God is prepared to condemn souls without redemption for quite minor offences. To say nothing of mass religions for whom being not of the faith is enough to condemn one to damnation. Again the reasoning you employ here is utterly feeble.
Isaac, It's not my argument: it's the one put by the greatest Christian theologians. You're at liberty to call Aquinas' argument feeble, of course, but... And on the polite C of E - granted: eternal punishment doesn't seem very British. But it's not just the C of E. I'm pretty sure that even the mighty Roman Catholic church no longer sends people to eternal damnation for not believing the right things.
Well I don't think just because it was Aquinas's argument we need to fall down in prostration without examining its intellectual merits. And I think it's a desperate argument. As for what Roman Catholics believe, I suspect neither of us are experts but you can see what the current Pope thinks here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne... . Your view also implies that you don't regard Islam as a mainstream faith, incidentally.
The alleged "deeper point" rests on the premise that "the existence of existence" is itself miraculous because existence is "astonishing, improbable and apparently ineffable". I don't have any clue where this probability assessment is supposed to come from. A posteriori, the "existence of existence" has a probability of 1 (since it is readily observed). So, you must have in mind an a priori assignment, but it isn't at all clear why you think it is incredibly more probable that nothing exist than that something does. Do you, perhaps, have some inside info that just before the "let there be light" moment God had a little lottery for himself to decide whether to create, in which it was very improbable that he create a universe? I for one am rather wary of speculative assignments of prior probabilities, especially when the person doing the assignment is just trying to rig the game in favor of a desired outcomes (such as a theist who wants "everything is miraculous" as a justification for clinging to mythology).
This is why, in particular, the interventionist conception is what you would need for a miracle to provide positive evidential support for theism without retreat to priors. Hume, though without employing the language of prior v. posterior probabilities, suggests exactly this point in "On Miracles". Indeed, he talks specifically about apportioning belief to evidence and says explicitly that "All probability, then, supposes an opposition of experiments and observations, where the one side is found to over-balance the other and to produce a degree of evidence proportioned to the superiority". This is precisely not what is done when prior probabilities are pulled from a hat. The "everything's a miracle" conception from Aquinas, far from being deep, is from evidentially shallow and ad hoc. Hume doesn't miss the point. You do.
Any party that claims both David Hume, and Glenn Beck, a televangelist pretending to be a newscaster, has to be so deeply and profoundly schizophrenic as to render it completely unfunctional.
<<So Hume's definition of a miracle as 'a transgression of a law of nature by a particular volition of the deity, or the interposition of some invisible agent' just misses the deeper point. Moreover, you might use Aquinas to challenge Hume's argument in another way.>>
Actually, that's sort of included in Hume's position.
Hume agreed that the world (and our knowledge of it) is sort of "miraculous." He notes that we cannot absolutely justify our belief that induction works; noting that we really have no proof that the sun will rise tomorrow except that it always has and we assume that things that have occurred are more likely to occur again. He didn't say we shouldn't assume that, though; if we didn't assume that food would nourish us (as induction would lead us to believe) then we'd starve to death (this is his example, BTW). Induction is necessary, it just can't be proven deductively. It's an instinct.
<<Hume argues that a miracle, in his restricted 'interventionist' sense, would only be believable if 'the testimony (to the miracle) be of such a kind that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavours to establish.'>>
Which followed from his point. If we are going to use induction, then at the very least we should be consistent.
What's more likely?
A violation of natural laws which work in almost all our experiences.
OR, it's a lie.
BTW, I love your blog. :)
What people make of the 'something out of nothing', miracle of existence, point seems to vary according to intellectual temperament as much as anything else. It seems like an elephant in the room to me, in terms of the search for a scientific explanation of all things. Others dismiss it, with comments such as the probability of existence is '1' - if with qualifications like 'a posteriori' which of course make all the difference. (Incidentally, you can choose from other estimates of the possibility of existence: I recently read that Victor Stenger, the atheist physicist, puts it at 0.6.) Personally, I find it an issue worth contemplating, precisely as beyond our reach, as yet and I suspect forever - because we may learn things in the contemplating, not least, for me, wonder at the existence of existence. Incidentally, I suspect Hume shared that wonder, at least on occasion, which is why he does have an idea of providence, as in the essay on suicide.
What you make of that is another question again. For Hume it did not lead to theism, of course, but rather a sense of the order of the world, the 'grand fabric'. He couldn't put that down to a creator, but the mystery of something was perhaps one of the things that kept him an agnostic, though I know that is a disputed reading of his position.
For theists, it speaks of God and the giftedness of things. I was recently reading the 17th century post and writer Thomas Traherne who, in the early days of the scientific revolution, put that point of view rather well:
'No imagination can fathom that depth of power, by which out of nothing something is made. It is easier to remove the Earth, than to create a sand, to carry up the seas into the air, and bring down the skies, then realize an atom with the gift of its existence. Angels if they were permitted might perhaps do this, but nothing less than God can bring an atom out of nothing.'
I read him as an agnostic as well. (More Bill Maher "I don't know and neither do you" than Richard Dawkins.)
I was going to press a tension between calling existence both "improbable" and "ineffable", since assigning a probability seems to me to be a sort of effing, but thought I had enough to say already. But let me make that point now in connection with agnosticism because I think it fits nicely. I, along with anyone of a philosophical temperament, have of course had the sensation of headspun "wonder at it all" (in "Metaphysics" Aristotle points to this sort of wonder as the starting place of philosophy). However, I don't take myself to be in any position to assign the relevant prior probabilities. I am more or less with Hume in thinking that probabilistic reasoning (induction) "supposes an opposition of experiments and observations". Ineffability of existence is a reason perhaps for agnosticism and humility, which I find somewhat lacking in the new atheists (although not as much as I find it lacking in the vast majority of theists). It is not, however, a reason to assign biased priors to seed theistic arguments.
The argument about miracles seems to have a bit of circularity about it. A miracle proves that god exists. A miracle is anything that exists, therefore god exists. It is ultimately a context and content free argument.
And faith precedes reason; that is, in a sense, a reason to reject faith. Not because it's unreasonable but because its origin is unknown. How can we advance if we accept an idea merely because its origin is not subject to reason? And when such ideas ARE subjected to reason, as they inevitably must be, and fail, what is our recourse? There are many ideas of 'god' and the divine. Accepting them merely because they are faith based means we can not have a dialog with others who hold different beliefs because the common ground of reason is excluded.
Demolishing certainty will, in a sense, will not have the effect on an atheist it has on a theist. The atheist at least has the guide of reason to examine the most elemental of ideas; the theist does not since his elemental ideas allow reason only after the fact.
Bob, I'm not sure that holds at all. Reason always has to have something to work on, a first proposition or basic intuition. You can't reason you way into your beliefs or unbeliefs from absolutely nothing. Also, the whole of theology is aimed at examining 'elemental ideas' with reason too, so there is every possibility of dialoguing with faith-based positions: I just don't understand what people mean when they say you can't debate with faith.