Atheism: a positive case?
By Mark Vernon on Thursday, April 3 2008, 23:09 - Religion - Permalink
I was speaking tonight as part of the Institute of Ideas Secularism series, to the question of 'Can a positive case be made for atheism?'. Here's what I said, more or less.
The quick answer to the question is, fairly obviously I would have thought, yes. A positive case for atheism will inevitably have some holes in it, some weak points, just like a positive case for belief in God. But I am sure that many atheists here imagine that being an atheist is a positive thing, most of the time.
So Id like to raise a slightly different challenge ??" not so much making a positive case for atheism, which would primarily be an intellectual exercise. But rather asking about the existential task of actually being an atheist ??" atheism as a way of life, as it were.
It is an interesting question because when you look at the writings of atheisms greatest philosophers, I think they suggest that being an atheist, as opposed to just arguing about it, is actually tough.
Take Sartre. His existentialism is based upon what he takes to be the bottom line for we humans, that we exist, period. He argued that this leads to a kind of terror, since there can be no reason given for this existence. Its thrown at us. Weve got to make of it what we will. It confronts man with a possibility of choice, he wrote. Hence words like abandonment, despair and condemnation litter his writings.
Sartre is taking a lead from Kierkegaard here. Kierkegaard thought that it was well-nigh impossible, not to be an atheist, but to be a Christian. Faith is too difficult to really make your own, quite as difficult as a father being told to kill his son, as he interpreted the story of Abraham and Isaac. So Kierkegaard said he was becoming a Christian. Sartre too seems to suggest that it is very difficult to be an atheist. Becoming an atheist is what he might hope for.
Further, there is a sense from this in which making an intellectual case for your atheism, as opposed to trying to be an atheist, is actually a distraction. It is a distraction from the existential angst of not believing in God. That is the real matter to get to grips with. Hence Sartre also writes:
Existentialism is not atheist in the sense that it would exhaust itself in demonstrations of the non-existence of God. It declares, rather, that even if God existed that would make no difference from its point of view. Not that we believe God does exist, but we think that the real problem is not that of His existence; what man needs is to find himself again and to understand that nothing can save him from himself, not even a valid proof of the existence of God.
So, I suspect that Sartre would say that the evangelical atheists of today risk abrogating their responsibility. They are a bit like the bishops and philosophers that Kierkegaard so loathed. They are so busy defending their intellectual edifices and self-justifications that they fail to address the real issue which is the great challenge of being an atheist, being a Christian.
Another great atheist was also very conscious of this. That was Nietzsche. Youll remember how he announces the death of God in The Gay Science. He does not do so by refuting the arguments for the existence of God, or celebrating the successes of Darwinism, say. Rather, he tells the story of a madman who one day went to the marketplace. His fellow human beings were going about their everyday, secular activities. And the madman cried out: I seek God! I seek God!. They laughed and mocked ??" asking whether God had got lost, or whether God was hiding, or if God is afraid of us? But then the madman turned on his tormenters. I will tell you, he cried. We have killed him ??" you and I.
Nietzsches point is not to plead Gods cause. Rather it is indicate the ramifications of Gods departure from the modern world. The madman continues ??" for he is not really mad but a prophet, in the sense of someone who sees things clearly:
How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us?
It may have been inevitable that God died. It may have been desirable. Presumably Nietzsche thought so. However, this did not blind him to the great problems it would throw up for humankind. Problems of how to ground morality, how to locate a sense of meaning, how to orientate ourselves through our lives. How to be an atheist.
Thus, I think, Nietzsche too would have been critical of much of what passes for atheism these days. He might have thought it rather glib ??" as if all that is required is to breath deeply of enlightenment air and watch as the sun dispels the clouds. The atheistic call, as Nietzsche sees it, is far more tremendous.
I think that Nietzsche can be read as rehearsing the warning of Kant, from his famous essay What is Enlightenment? Enlightenment is tough. It does not come easily because it requires profound change, penetrating discernment, and time. Moreover, it is precisely when great intellectual revolutions are proclaimed prematurely that they nurture personal delusions and go wrong. Instead of enlightenment what you get is a new kind of immaturity.
Later in The Gay Science, Nietzsche offers his own estimation of how long enlightenment might take. Centuries. And in the meantime, human beings will be constantly tempted to fall back on old superstitions and strange faiths, often without realising it. Chief amongst these will be that they are enlightened already.
This flags up another reason that the comparison between becoming a theist and becoming an atheist might be illuminating. Surprising as it may seem, I think the tasks are really quite similar. Both are efforts in ditching false gods ??" be they metaphysical imaginings in the sky or false hopes here on earth. For example, the great medieval preacher, Meister Eckhart, once spoke these words:
If thou lovest God as God, as spirit, as Person or as image, that must all go. Love him as he is: a not-God, a non-spirit, a not-Person, a not-image; as sheer, pure, limpid unity, alien from all duality. And in this one let us sink down eternally from nothingness to nothingness.
It sounds like being an atheist, and as difficult. And if Sartre and Nietzsche would have not thought much of what passes for atheism today, then I suspect that Eckhart and Kierkegaard would not think much of what passes for Christianity either. Kierkegaard had a good line. He said that faith can turn water into wine, whereas the faith of contemporary Christians turns wine into water.
If you buy this, you might then ask what the difference is between being an atheist and being a theist. Less, I suspect, than you might think. But there is one thing that stands out. The atheist, I would imagine, presumes that their existence, and the existence of the universe, is pure luck, just there as the atheistically-inclined Bertrand Russell put it. The theist, though, thinks that the world is created ??" created out of nothing, ex nihilo, for sure, because it is a mystery. But because it is created by God, it is therefore not just there, but is a gift. And so the theist can be thankful to their God, for all that they might fail to live up to their theistic calling. In this sense, then, I think it might actually be harder to be an atheist than to be a theist, to make a positive case for their atheism. For at least the theist has grounds to be existentially thankful.










Comments
Thank you.
This really gets to the heart of the matter, the escalating stridency of both sides of the debate revealing the despair of knowing you're wrong, you've got it wrong, and you're avoiding confronting and accepting and appreciating the reality of our situation:
God made mud.
God got lonesome.
So God said to some of the mud, Sit up!
See all Ive made, said God, the hills, the sea, the sky, the stars.
And I was some of the mud that got to sit up and look around.
Lucky me, lucky mud.
I, mud, sat up and saw what a nice job God had done.
Nice going, God.
Nobody but you could have done it, God! I certainly couldnt have.
I feel very unimportant compared to You.
The only way I can feel the least bit important is to think of all the mud that didnt even get to sit up and look around.
I got so much, and most mud got so little.
Thank you for the honor!
Now mud lies down again and goes to sleep.
What memories for mud to have!
What interesting other kinds of sitting-up mud I met!
I loved everything I saw!
Good night.
I will go to heaven now.
I can hardly wait
To find out for certain what my wampeter* was
And who was in my karass**
And all the good things our karass did for you.
Amen.
- The Last Rites of Bokonon
"Can a positive case be made for atheism?"
The real question is, "What's WRONG with being an atheist? The thing that really makes me angry is the assumption that you can't be a moral being and not believe in some god (some hard-core theists will go even further and say you're evil--more on that later). Well, as evidenced by the headlines, being a Christian, or Jew, or Muslim, or pick-your-poison, is NOT automatic grounds for morality, either. We simply prefer a very simple morality code: make the world a better place while you have a chance, because it's the ONLY chance you're going to get.
And as for being anti-religion...most of us only oppose religion (or even give it serious thought) when it makes an attempt to push unwanted ideas down other people's throats. Intelligent Design/Creationism in public school classrooms is the classic example, but there are plenty of others. Bottom line, I can let you live with your own religious beliefs, but keep them to yourself, because atheists like me are NEVER going to be interested in them.
One of the most puzzling arguments for the existence of God is that without God life has no meaning and no moral center.
First, Im not sure that need is any kind of basis for supporting a claim of Gods existence. The world has many needs that are left unmet. My needing a kidney donor would do nothing to ensure that one exists.
Second, and more to the point, I dont agree with the assumption that meaning and morality come exclusively or even primarily through religion. Lots of people are religious without any sort of meaning conferred to their existence??"otherwise, why would they need books like A Purpose-Driven Life?
Religious morality, so called, inspires a cold sense of self-righteousness, risk aversion, and intolerant austerity that I cant accurately call morality at all, especially since it too frequently manifests itself in hatred, arrogance, unexplored personal potential, thin-skinned vengefulness, and callous violence.
It seems to me that meaning in life comes from introspection and the courage to live up to reasonable standards one sets for oneself.
Morality derives from reason, from the need for community and interdependence??"as many have pointed out, it boils down to Treat Others the Way You Would Want to Be Treated, so far the best guidance we have for getting along with other people without resorting to domination or capitulation.
The one moral precept that seems to matter, then, is Respect for Others, and Im not convinced that Respect requires religion or that religion, judging its fruits rather than its stated intentions, is even conducive to the fostering of Respect.
I suspect you may be using "positive" in some specific, philosophical sense that I'm not familiar with, but if you aren't, and you're just wondering whether there's anything actually appealing about atheism, as opposed to it being a state that people lapse into because they can't sustain belief, then you're right, there of course there is. I refer to the small matter of our beliefs being more likely to be true than those of believers. We can look ourselves in the mirror and assure ourselves that, whatever our other faults, we're doing our best to live honestly and without the false comfort of self-deception. It's a pretty good feeling and, paradoxically I suppose, a source of genuine existential comfort such as the Mother Teresas of this world live their lives without ever feeling.
I am intrigued by the notion of being an atheist versus becoming an athiest. I think the level of diffuculty of being an athiest,or a theist for that matter, depends of your starting point. This atricle seems to confine itself to the idea of conversion,as it were, from one to another. If a person is born and raised in a certain belief structure, then becoming and being are almost simultaneous; by the time the person is old enough to think about such matters, he will see himself as already "being" something. In other words, if a person was raised as an athiest, that person would likely see himself as "being" an athiest, and being one wouldn't be as difficult as having to contemplate the changes necessary to become one if one were raised as a theist. However, I admit that the fact that so few people are rasied as atheists makes this hard to investigate.
I must apologize for the horrid spelling in my last post. I do actually know better; I just can't type.
hmmm.......now I seem to be having technical trouble.....once again, I apologize for the horrid spelling in my comment. I do know better; I just can't type.
I find all this philosophizing over the difficulty of being an atheist very puzzling. I'm an atheist and I find it the easiest way to live. No need to lie to yourself, to suspend reason in favor of unsupportable superstition and banal, childish moral strictures. Neitschze was a brilliant, if turgid, thinker, but I seriously think he overstates his case here. It's really not that hard. Once you accept the utter futility and meaninglessness of humanity, in the grand cosmic sense, it's actually a relief to see day to day life as simply a struggle to add some significance to your life and those you love. Fleeting significance, for sure, but still; it's all the significance we've got, so go for it.
And to the earlier poster on Mother Theresa; what exquisite irony that she turns out to have been the very embodiment of existentialism, devoid of all faith and tormented by her mundanity, but too invested in her iconic brand to admit it to the world while she lived. And then, beyond parody, the church still wants to canonise her. Never doubt the power of the icon.
My grounds for being a thankful atheist are that I have escaped the wrath of false gods in decent shape and that I have learned to place the responsibility of my actions on myself. I have also overcome the oppression of psychotherapy, thank god. It's all literature, folks. Enjoy it while it lasts. Laugh and have a good meal, crack a beer and then smoke some pot. Your generosity of spirit will do more for humanity than the disection of dusty old charismatic madness. Your mom knows this: intuition and logic (intertwined as common sense) are the best tools we have to combat our fears. Good luck.
Were there no God, we would be in this glorious world with grateful hearts and no one to thank. - Christina Rosetti
I think mikesdak is absolutely right - as someone who was raised an atheist I don't feel much existential angst at all! I feel a sense of wonder at the incredible beauty and diversity and complexity of the world and the universe that I have the amazing luck to inhabit. Occasionally it does strike me how improbable my existence is, but that normally just makes me relish the vividness of this wonderful haphazard existence even more.
>Further, there is a sense from this in which making an intellectual case for your atheism, as opposed to trying to be an atheist, is actually a distraction. It is a distraction from the existential angst of not believing in God.
Well, I don't spend much time making an intellectual case for atheism, and when I do it is a distraction - but a distraction not from angst but from getting on with my life and my own personal journey.
Atheists - I think you're missing the point.
It's not about whether it's better to be an atheist, or whether only people who believe in God can have morality.
Good atheists, it's about whether you really believe you're an animal with primal instincts and subconscious, or whether you believe you can wish those things away with sheer luminous reason alone.
What religion offers that pure atheism alone cannot, is a connection with that Jungian subconscious. What the doctrine of reason offers that religion cannot, is repeatable, verifiable predictions about our universe.
Religion merely deals with, subdues, reassures, gives voice to the part of ourselves that can't be reasoned with. If you're comfortable in your atheism, good for you. But connecting with the subconscious via myth or religion doesn't have to be incompatible with reason. It's a difference in attitude, not in belief.
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